have you heard Sam Harris on Triggernometry? he actually says that Trump was so dangerous that even if Hunter Biden's laptop contained photos of the mutilated bodies of dead children, it still should have been suppressed to keep the idiot population from voting for Trump. was it a conspiracy to manipulate the election? YES!, he says, but a necessary one to prevent an even greater harm from befalling the nation. after all, Trump was orders of magnitudes worse than Hilary (who he admits was a terrible candidate), Biden (even though we all knew he was brain dead from the beginning), and Kamala (nothing to say here). so yes, it was essential to destroy democracy in order to save democracy.
i always thought that Sam Harris was pompous and full of himself. i never listened to his podcast and only suffered through him when he was a guest on other podcasts that i do listen to. but hearing this, i can only think that he is orders of magnitude worse than i thought
thanks for this! i had listened to it but really enjoyed watching the faces of Kisin and Foster while Harris arrogantly explained why HE should control the fate of the great unwashed masses! the guy is so full of it!
i did listen to one of his podcasts- the one where he and Eric Topol slandered the Weinsteins which drove me insane. i had great respect for Topol; he was a whistle blower on VIOXX and was targeted for persecution by the pharmaceutical industry but turned around immediately and accused Bret Weinstein of being responsible for the deaths of all the unvaccinated people he may have influenced (none). Harris, who has known Bret and Heather for years and claimed to be their friend, could only fall back on the insanity defense, as in "they must have lost their minds not to take this vaccine!"
there's a reason i'm not vaccinated and it has nothing to do with Joe Rogan or Bret Weinstein or Dr. Mercola or RFK jr or any of the other "Russian operatives getting paid millions to destroy America" (they actually said this once on TWIV).
it's because my cousin's wife took the flu shot in 1976 and spent a year in a wheelchair with GBS caused by a vaccine that was going to save the world from certain death until it was revealed that the shot injured people and the swine flu wasn't that big of a deal anyway. i decided to take my chances with the flu and that decision has served me well.
the last thing i want is some stuffed shirt telling me that i can't make up my own mind, do my own research, etc and that i'm so dumb that i can be influenced by any podcaster i happen to hear on any given day. so why haven't i taken the vaccine since i also listen to TWIV and their mission in life is to convince everyone that science is all knowing and that we should line up for every vaccine offered, that our immune systems are useless on their own, that humans aren't smart enough to make SARcoV2 in a lab.
Yes, I also had a weird feeling with him, but totally saw through his shallowness in the Peterson vs. Harris debate. He completely lost me. And then his really unexpected vaccine backstabbing of the Weinsteins, which was the utmost disappointment. What a nice friend!!
In my Buddhist circles he is also quite a star because of his atheist, secular, "neurosciencey" meditation app.
He and the "Vipassana" meditator Yuval Noah Harari are prime examples of the dangers of these militante secularists, who during this pandemic showed their true colours and disproofed their own argument that morality and the knowledge of good and evil is self evident, in the brain, and doesn't need any traditional religious or spiritual foundation whatsoever to manifest properly: Their preached morals and integrity just evaporated under stress and fear. Once exposed to a perceived existential threat, they have nothing to fall back on and are damned to keep their trust in their thinking, sciencey, rational mind, which is - sadly - the whole source of their worries and fears. To cope, they ultimately have to come back and grasp onto a believe system, a religion, to give meaning and remedies to all all their troubles - the new world religion "Science ™". Are you baptised already with miracle mRNA elixir?
But I'm not so sure that's truly a general human propensity. For example, it's often been observed that while liberals do indeed tend to view their conservative opponents as evil - including dishonest - conservatives far more often view their liberal opponents as foolish - and not particularly dishonest. I think there is a good deal of truth in this observation. Perhaps science could help us get to the bottom of it...
have you heard Sam Harris on Triggernometry? he actually says that Trump was so dangerous that even if Hunter Biden's laptop contained photos of the mutilated bodies of dead children, it still should have been suppressed to keep the idiot population from voting for Trump. was it a conspiracy to manipulate the election? YES!, he says, but a necessary one to prevent an even greater harm from befalling the nation. after all, Trump was orders of magnitudes worse than Hilary (who he admits was a terrible candidate), Biden (even though we all knew he was brain dead from the beginning), and Kamala (nothing to say here). so yes, it was essential to destroy democracy in order to save democracy.
i always thought that Sam Harris was pompous and full of himself. i never listened to his podcast and only suffered through him when he was a guest on other podcasts that i do listen to. but hearing this, i can only think that he is orders of magnitude worse than i thought
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thanks for this! i had listened to it but really enjoyed watching the faces of Kisin and Foster while Harris arrogantly explained why HE should control the fate of the great unwashed masses! the guy is so full of it!
i did listen to one of his podcasts- the one where he and Eric Topol slandered the Weinsteins which drove me insane. i had great respect for Topol; he was a whistle blower on VIOXX and was targeted for persecution by the pharmaceutical industry but turned around immediately and accused Bret Weinstein of being responsible for the deaths of all the unvaccinated people he may have influenced (none). Harris, who has known Bret and Heather for years and claimed to be their friend, could only fall back on the insanity defense, as in "they must have lost their minds not to take this vaccine!"
there's a reason i'm not vaccinated and it has nothing to do with Joe Rogan or Bret Weinstein or Dr. Mercola or RFK jr or any of the other "Russian operatives getting paid millions to destroy America" (they actually said this once on TWIV).
it's because my cousin's wife took the flu shot in 1976 and spent a year in a wheelchair with GBS caused by a vaccine that was going to save the world from certain death until it was revealed that the shot injured people and the swine flu wasn't that big of a deal anyway. i decided to take my chances with the flu and that decision has served me well.
the last thing i want is some stuffed shirt telling me that i can't make up my own mind, do my own research, etc and that i'm so dumb that i can be influenced by any podcaster i happen to hear on any given day. so why haven't i taken the vaccine since i also listen to TWIV and their mission in life is to convince everyone that science is all knowing and that we should line up for every vaccine offered, that our immune systems are useless on their own, that humans aren't smart enough to make SARcoV2 in a lab.
Yes, I also had a weird feeling with him, but totally saw through his shallowness in the Peterson vs. Harris debate. He completely lost me. And then his really unexpected vaccine backstabbing of the Weinsteins, which was the utmost disappointment. What a nice friend!!
In my Buddhist circles he is also quite a star because of his atheist, secular, "neurosciencey" meditation app.
He and the "Vipassana" meditator Yuval Noah Harari are prime examples of the dangers of these militante secularists, who during this pandemic showed their true colours and disproofed their own argument that morality and the knowledge of good and evil is self evident, in the brain, and doesn't need any traditional religious or spiritual foundation whatsoever to manifest properly: Their preached morals and integrity just evaporated under stress and fear. Once exposed to a perceived existential threat, they have nothing to fall back on and are damned to keep their trust in their thinking, sciencey, rational mind, which is - sadly - the whole source of their worries and fears. To cope, they ultimately have to come back and grasp onto a believe system, a religion, to give meaning and remedies to all all their troubles - the new world religion "Science ™". Are you baptised already with miracle mRNA elixir?
Not exactly a science moment, but certainly common sense that bears repeating.
You left out "hate speech"...
I think that our human propensity to see our opponents as lying, for example, is an important *science* observation. No?
OK, I'll grant you that.
But I'm not so sure that's truly a general human propensity. For example, it's often been observed that while liberals do indeed tend to view their conservative opponents as evil - including dishonest - conservatives far more often view their liberal opponents as foolish - and not particularly dishonest. I think there is a good deal of truth in this observation. Perhaps science could help us get to the bottom of it...