I like you. You try to keep an open mind, which is rare.
"Accepting that a billion zygotes died in an event can not be a valid position because our intuition says otherwise. You are lying to yourself."
I admit there would be more emotional impact within myself if half the the USA died rather than 1 billion zygotes died, but so what? My intuition and the truth are not necessarily in line with one another. In one instance you say most of the people arguing abortion are utilizing bad arguments often times based on flawed intuition, then you say that you can't take this other position honestly, because it goes against our intuition. Why is it better to determine the scale of a tragedy based on emoting ("Wow, this seems big!") rather than applying some kind of numerical analysis ("1 billion zygote deaths (AKA: Humans) is more of a tragedy than 9/11 with 3,000 deaths")?
Why is ANYTHING a tragedy in your world view? The entire universe is going to collapse in on itself eventually killing absolutely everything; who cares if billions of cells die today or 10 million years from now? Why does a collection of cells have any more moral value than a rock in your world view? As far as I can tell, you keep framing issues in a way that serves your own positions and you don't address the inconsistent presuppositions that you take for granted in making your arguments. You post-hoc justify that there are such a thing as tragedies.
I like you. You try to keep an open mind, which is rare.
"Accepting that a billion zygotes died in an event can not be a valid position because our intuition says otherwise. You are lying to yourself."
I admit there would be more emotional impact within myself if half the the USA died rather than 1 billion zygotes died, but so what? My intuition and the truth are not necessarily in line with one another. In one instance you say most of the people arguing abortion are utilizing bad arguments often times based on flawed intuition, then you say that you can't take this other position honestly, because it goes against our intuition. Why is it better to determine the scale of a tragedy based on emoting ("Wow, this seems big!") rather than applying some kind of numerical analysis ("1 billion zygote deaths (AKA: Humans) is more of a tragedy than 9/11 with 3,000 deaths")?
Why is ANYTHING a tragedy in your world view? The entire universe is going to collapse in on itself eventually killing absolutely everything; who cares if billions of cells die today or 10 million years from now? Why does a collection of cells have any more moral value than a rock in your world view? As far as I can tell, you keep framing issues in a way that serves your own positions and you don't address the inconsistent presuppositions that you take for granted in making your arguments. You post-hoc justify that there are such a thing as tragedies.